252. Mary Todd Lincoln (William H. Herndon Interview)
Mrs. L. was born in 1823
Came to Illinois in 1837 — was in Ills 3 months — went school 2 years after came to Ills — returned to Ills in 1839 or 40 — This after Mrs Wallace
My husband intended when he was through with his Presdt time to take me & family to Europe — didnt in late days dream of death — was cheery — funny — in high Spirits. He intended to return and go to California — over the Rocy Mountains and see the prospect of the Soldiers &c digging out gold to pay national debt.
He & Sumner were like boys during his last days — down on the River after Richmond was taken — they acted like boys — were so glad the war was over. Mr L. wanted to live in Spgfd and be buried there up to 1865 — Changed his notion where to live — never settled on any place particularly — moving & travelling —
Mr L was the kindest — most tender and loving husband & father in the world — He gave us all unbounded liberty — Said to me always when I asked him for any thing — You know what you want — go and get it. He never asked me if it was necessary. He was very very indulgent to his children — chided or praised for it he always said "It is my pleasure that my children are free — happy and unrestrained by paternal tyranny. Love is the chain whereby to lock a child to its parent."
I have none of my literary scraps — poems — compositions &c — Except I know of the Shield's poetry
Mr Lincoln had a dream when down the River City Point — after Richmond was taken he dreamed that the white house burned up — sent me up the River — went — met Stanton — &c. Mr L. told me to get a party and come back — did so.
Mr L. had no hope — & no faith in the usual acceptation of those word.
He found out that N. W Edwards was stealing as he though: intended to turn him out. My husband placed great Confidence in my knowledge in human nature: he had not much knowledge of men
Library of Congress: Herndon-Weik Collection. Manuscript Division. Library of Congress. Washington, D.C. 3065 — 66; Huntington Library: LN2408, 2:227 — 28