516. Elizabeth and Ninian W. Edwards (William H. Herndon Interview).
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Mrs N. W. Edwards
Said — Mr Herndon I have no phos of myself — have had some — unwillingly taken — don't know where any of these are now — have a likeness — a
623portrait of myself here which you can have photographed, if you must have it. When you go to Indiana I will answer your letters asking questions. I have no phos of Mrs. Lincoln: she too was opposed to having her face scattered abroad. Mrs. Lincoln was an ambitious woman — the most ambitious woman I ever saw — spurred up Mr. Lincoln, pushed him along and upward — made him struggle and seize his opportunities. Lincoln's & Mary's engagement &c were broken off by her flirtations with Douglas — Mr Edwards & myself told Lincoln & Mary not to marry — said so more or less directly: they were raised differently and had no [congruity?] — no feelings &c — alike. We never opposed Lincoln's marriage with Mary. It is said that Miss Edwards
Mr Edwards was present during this conversation — said that when Lincoln first came to Springfield I assisted Lincoln — offered to buy him a good law library and send him to some law school and these offers he refused — said that he was too poor and did not wish to involve himself — said that Lincoln was, during part of the time, in the legislature of 1841 — called Session —
Both Mr Edwards and Mrs Edwards have been willing at all times to answer all proper questions and to make things plain to me. This memorandum was taken down by me quickly after the Conversation was had and is in every particular Correct substantially.
W H H
It seems to me — infer it that Mary Todd flirted with Douglas in order to spur up Lincoln to a greater love. Lincoln was undemonstrative. Miss Todd didn't know her man. Lincoln was somewhat cold and yet exacting — blew up to quickly — From various conversations with Mr & Mrs Edwards I infer as above.
Library of Congress: Herndon-Weik Collection. Manuscript Division. Library of Congress. Washington, D.C. 3384 — 85